This. But that is the problem. While they've been *sure* we've been acting like the actual Nazis on the right... 

They're the ones suggesting Ministries of Truth (but calling them Reality Czars) - swinging elections, and otherwise being the fascists they claim to hate. 

Sat Feb 06 2021 18:16:17 MST from IGnatius T Foobar

Time Magazine admits to the conspiracy to keep Trump from winning,
although they pretend it was a conspiracy to "maintain democracy" lol

They may not even be aware of what they've admitted to.

They've spent the last five years absolutely *immersed* in the assumption that Trump is a nazi dictator, a neo-Hitler who intends to murder all nonwhites, the worst villain in the history of the universe.

In their mind, stealing (or "fortifying") the election makes them heroes.
They have cognitive dissonance; they literally cannot see how stealing the election wasn't the absolute valorous thing to do.

Sat Feb 06 2021 18:16:17 MST from IGnatius T Foobar

In their mind, stealing (or "fortifying") the election makes them heroes.

They have cognitive dissonance; they literally cannot see how stealing the election wasn't the absolute valorous thing to do.

The end justifies the means, comrade. 

Da. 

Sun Feb 07 2021 19:37:22 MST from Google Bot

 

Sat Feb 06 2021 18:16:17 MST from IGnatius T Foobar

In their mind, stealing (or "fortifying") the election makes them heroes.

They have cognitive dissonance; they literally cannot see how stealing the election wasn't the absolute valorous thing to do.

The end justifies the means, comrade. 

So, here is the thing about the "the vaccine is going to make things worse,"  conspiracy theorists. 

Let's say all the evil world leaders get all the people to take the vaccine so that they can have the entire world for themselves - 

Once everyone else dies, all the cops, the physicians, the physicists, the soldiers, stock brokers, dentists, and other reasonable people... 

It is a handful of world leaders left... 

And all the nutball conspiracy theorists with stockpiles of automatic weapons who believe the world leaders are in an evil plot to establish a one world government to reduce the common man back to serfdom. 


That is a scenario that plays out interestingly. 

Mon Mar 08 2021 12:54:18 MST from ParanoidDelusions

So, here is the thing about the "the vaccine is going to make things worse,"  conspiracy theorists. 

Let's say all the evil world leaders get all the people to take the vaccine so that they can have the entire world for themselves - 

Once everyone else dies, all the cops, the physicians, the physicists, the soldiers, stock brokers, dentists, and other reasonable people... 

It is a handful of world leaders left... 

And all the nutball conspiracy theorists with stockpiles of automatic weapons who believe the world leaders are in an evil plot to establish a one world government to reduce the common man back to serfdom. 


That is a scenario that plays out interestingly. 

 

I'm not one of them, but I'm also not NOT one of them.  I'm not getting it for lots of reasons, one of which is I never go anywhere or interact in person on a regular basis so if I get covid I'll know exactly how.  Another is that I don't know what the results of the vaccine will be and since I can afford not to get it, I'm happy to wait to see if it's a good or bad thing.  With something like this, waiting seems to be the best path.

I was on the fence until it almost killed my boss. There are absolutely risks with taking it - but I can't see how they're different than risks with taking any other vaccine - which I generally avoid taking as well. 

It is absolutely a relief to be less worried about Covid-19 and the mutations that it seems to protect against. 

And honestly, if it keeps eating through us, and changing - and becoming MORE lethal, not less - we're done - eventually. 

Not sure I want to be one of the LAST ones it gets, in that scenario. The first ones may be the fortunate ones. 

Wed Mar 10 2021 09:07:47 MST from TheDave

 

Mon Mar 08 2021 12:54:18 MST from ParanoidDelusions

So, here is the thing about the "the vaccine is going to make things worse,"  conspiracy theorists. 

Let's say all the evil world leaders get all the people to take the vaccine so that they can have the entire world for themselves - 

Once everyone else dies, all the cops, the physicians, the physicists, the soldiers, stock brokers, dentists, and other reasonable people... 

It is a handful of world leaders left... 

And all the nutball conspiracy theorists with stockpiles of automatic weapons who believe the world leaders are in an evil plot to establish a one world government to reduce the common man back to serfdom. 


That is a scenario that plays out interestingly. 

 

I'm not one of them, but I'm also not NOT one of them.  I'm not getting it for lots of reasons, one of which is I never go anywhere or interact in person on a regular basis so if I get covid I'll know exactly how.  Another is that I don't know what the results of the vaccine will be and since I can afford not to get it, I'm happy to wait to see if it's a good or bad thing.  With something like this, waiting seems to be the best path.

Wed Mar 10 2021 16:52:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions

I was on the fence until it almost killed my boss. There are absolutely risks with taking it - but I can't see how they're different than risks with taking any other vaccine - which I generally avoid taking as well. 

It is absolutely a relief to be less worried about Covid-19 and the mutations that it seems to protect against. 

And honestly, if it keeps eating through us, and changing - and becoming MORE lethal, not less - we're done - eventually. 

Not sure I want to be one of the LAST ones it gets, in that scenario. The first ones may be the fortunate ones. 

It almost killed my cousin, too, but he weighs like 500 pounds.  I know a lot of people that lived through it.  It's not a happy time, but it's not the plague either.  I'll wait here on the fence :)

My father-in-law, who isn't real active, has diabetes, it was like a mild flu. My boss is physically active, relatively fit, no pre-existing conditions. He was an "on the fence" kind of guy. 

The problem is - it is Russian Roulette - or Craps - you put your money on the table, and you roll the dice. So far, I'm the only one I know who has been beating the house on playing the table. 

Thu Mar 11 2021 00:21:06 MST from TheDave

 

Wed Mar 10 2021 16:52:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions

I was on the fence until it almost killed my boss. There are absolutely risks with taking it - but I can't see how they're different than risks with taking any other vaccine - which I generally avoid taking as well. 

It is absolutely a relief to be less worried about Covid-19 and the mutations that it seems to protect against. 

And honestly, if it keeps eating through us, and changing - and becoming MORE lethal, not less - we're done - eventually. 

Not sure I want to be one of the LAST ones it gets, in that scenario. The first ones may be the fortunate ones. 

 

It almost killed my cousin, too, but he weighs like 500 pounds.  I know a lot of people that lived through it.  It's not a happy time, but it's not the plague either.  I'll wait here on the fence :)

Thu Mar 11 2021 12:50:16 MST from ParanoidDelusions

My father-in-law, who isn't real active, has diabetes, it was like a mild flu. My boss is physically active, relatively fit, no pre-existing conditions. He was an "on the fence" kind of guy. 

The problem is - it is Russian Roulette - or Craps - you put your money on the table, and you roll the dice. So far, I'm the only one I know who has been beating the house on playing the table. 

 

Yeah but I literally never interact with people.  My odds of getting it are roughly 1 in 10,000 compared to the next guy.  I leave my house maybe twice a month.  I wear a mask, I clean my hands, I assume germs are everywhere.  I'm not paranoid about it, just don't see a point in taking chances.  Even if I get it I'll probably be fine, but still.  No need for an untested vaccine for a year or so.

I'm also a champion social isolator. 

When my wife leaves and my kid is in college, I go an entire week never leaving the house except to go and come from work. 

Thu Mar 11 2021 19:56:45 MST from TheDave

 

Thu Mar 11 2021 12:50:16 MST from ParanoidDelusions

My father-in-law, who isn't real active, has diabetes, it was like a mild flu. My boss is physically active, relatively fit, no pre-existing conditions. He was an "on the fence" kind of guy. 

The problem is - it is Russian Roulette - or Craps - you put your money on the table, and you roll the dice. So far, I'm the only one I know who has been beating the house on playing the table. 

 

 

Yeah but I literally never interact with people.  My odds of getting it are roughly 1 in 10,000 compared to the next guy.  I leave my house maybe twice a month.  I wear a mask, I clean my hands, I assume germs are everywhere.  I'm not paranoid about it, just don't see a point in taking chances.  Even if I get it I'll probably be fine, but still.  No need for an untested vaccine for a year or so.

Thu Mar 11 2021 20:58:14 MST from ParanoidDelusions

I'm also a champion social isolator. 

When my wife leaves and my kid is in college, I go an entire week never leaving the house except to go and come from work. 

 

Working from home makes that easier.  Speaking of which, what happened with your job situation?  I know a concrete company that's looking for an IT guy but I'm not sure what they're paying.

It leveled off. I'm probably not looking if I lose my job or quit. I've come to an arrangement with my wife about this. :) 

Fri Mar 12 2021 07:58:44 MST from TheDave

 

Thu Mar 11 2021 20:58:14 MST from ParanoidDelusions

I'm also a champion social isolator. 

When my wife leaves and my kid is in college, I go an entire week never leaving the house except to go and come from work. 

 

Working from home makes that easier.  Speaking of which, what happened with your job situation?  I know a concrete company that's looking for an IT guy but I'm not sure what they're paying.

Fri Mar 12 2021 15:13:20 MST from ParanoidDelusions

It leveled off. I'm probably not looking if I lose my job or quit. I've come to an arrangement with my wife about this. :) 

 

 

Working from home makes that easier.  Speaking of which, what happened with your job situation?  I know a concrete company that's looking for an IT guy but I'm not sure what they're paying.

 

Okay but they're so hopeless that it would be really fun to yell at them and whip them into shape.  If you change your mind I'll get you their info.

They were restoring their backups manually via data entry from paper copies.  Ew.

I'm terrified of becoming *that* important at an employers. They start to become very clingy and needy once they see my magic - and they tend to think I *need* the job more than *they* need me... and that tends to work out very poorly for them. :) 

Thu Mar 18 2021 01:23:18 MST from TheDave

 

Fri Mar 12 2021 15:13:20 MST from ParanoidDelusions

It leveled off. I'm probably not looking if I lose my job or quit. I've come to an arrangement with my wife about this. :) 

 

 

Working from home makes that easier.  Speaking of which, what happened with your job situation?  I know a concrete company that's looking for an IT guy but I'm not sure what they're paying.

 

Okay but they're so hopeless that it would be really fun to yell at them and whip them into shape.  If you change your mind I'll get you their info.

They were restoring their backups manually via data entry from paper copies.  Ew.

Thu Mar 18 2021 21:14:20 MST from ParanoidDelusions

I'm terrified of becoming *that* important at an employers. They start to become very clingy and needy once they see my magic - and they tend to think I *need* the job more than *they* need me... and that tends to work out very poorly for them. :) 

Thu Mar 18 2021 01:23:18 MST from TheDave

Okay but they're so hopeless that it would be really fun to yell at them and whip them into shape.  If you change your mind I'll get you their info.

They were restoring their backups manually via data entry from paper copies.  Ew.

 

Ha.  I totally get that.  Gotta love boomers who do things the extra hard way.

Heh. I'm going to let the ageism against boomers slide here - being that I understand being a victim of their limitations in concepts of professional behavior in regards to this topic. ;) 

Also because I'm not a rabid SJW participation-trophy millennial who gets butthurt every time my personal philosophies are crossed or contradicted. :D 

Watching the world move toward remote/WFH workforces and "boomers" struggle with the idea that they can't send managers out to look over your shoulder every fucking minute of the day and say things like, "time enough to lean, time enough to clean," when an employee isn't being 110% productive the entire day long *has* been amusing. 

Fri Mar 19 2021 23:36:53 MST from TheDave

 

Thu Mar 18 2021 21:14:20 MST from ParanoidDelusions

I'm terrified of becoming *that* important at an employers. They start to become very clingy and needy once they see my magic - and they tend to think I *need* the job more than *they* need me... and that tends to work out very poorly for them. :) 

Thu Mar 18 2021 01:23:18 MST from TheDave

Okay but they're so hopeless that it would be really fun to yell at them and whip them into shape.  If you change your mind I'll get you their info.

They were restoring their backups manually via data entry from paper copies.  Ew.

 

Ha.  I totally get that.  Gotta love boomers who do things the extra hard way.

Sat Mar 20 2021 19:12:20 MST from ParanoidDelusions

Heh. I'm going to let the ageism against boomers slide here - being that I understand being a victim of their limitations in concepts of professional behavior in regards to this topic. ;) 

Also because I'm not a rabid SJW participation-trophy millennial who gets butthurt every time my personal philosophies are crossed or contradicted. :D 

Watching the world move toward remote/WFH workforces and "boomers" struggle with the idea that they can't send managers out to look over your shoulder every fucking minute of the day and say things like, "time enough to lean, time enough to clean," when an employee isn't being 110% productive the entire day long *has* been amusing. 

 

My grandma is the single best Super Mario World player I've seen in my life.  This isn't me being ageist, it's just that in this case they're actually boomers.

Those "time enough to lean time enough to clean" types are the single greatest hindrance to productivity I've ever met, and easily the fastest way to ruin morale.

Yeah, we just lost a guy at my office - probably over a bit of this. 

Sun Mar 21 2021 18:40:50 MST from TheDave

 

Sat Mar 20 2021 19:12:20 MST from ParanoidDelusions

Heh. I'm going to let the ageism against boomers slide here - being that I understand being a victim of their limitations in concepts of professional behavior in regards to this topic. ;) 

Also because I'm not a rabid SJW participation-trophy millennial who gets butthurt every time my personal philosophies are crossed or contradicted. :D 

Watching the world move toward remote/WFH workforces and "boomers" struggle with the idea that they can't send managers out to look over your shoulder every fucking minute of the day and say things like, "time enough to lean, time enough to clean," when an employee isn't being 110% productive the entire day long *has* been amusing. 

 

My grandma is the single best Super Mario World player I've seen in my life.  This isn't me being ageist, it's just that in this case they're actually boomers.

Those "time enough to lean time enough to clean" types are the single greatest hindrance to productivity I've ever met, and easily the fastest way to ruin morale.

My wife is agoraphobic, so the pandemic has been almost a non-event for me. The first three weeks we were being shown Chinese streets full of corpses and Italy losing thousands per week. After that it was obviously just a super cold.

I just wish I could take my wife out to a restaurant again. She gets panic attacks wearing a a mask.